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OS X 'Leopard' Delayed for Vista Support?

Yesterday, I reported in The Vista Daily #16 that "Leopard" is being delayed, and in the article I linked to, one of the sources said that it "wasn't even close to being ready". Then today, Apple "insiders" hit back with a report that the delays might actually be attributed to Apple wanting to gain marketshare by having Vista support for BootCamp.

Is Apple making Vista the scapegoat for poor progress on "Leopard"? Well, if this report is true, then it is quite possible. Now I'm all for Vista support on Mac hardware... it's great hardware. But personally, I find it rather fishy that Apple has the cahones to fight potentially bad press by blaming it's own development issues on Microsoft. Rather convenient, don'cha think? I read the article I linked to yesterday thoroughly, and nowhere did the "source" say anything about the problems being just with BootCamp, they said the whole OS wasn't ready yet.

Now, I'm not doubting that Vista support in BootCamp would be a huge draw for Apple. I think it's BS that Apple can tell people that Vista sucks but "we'll still use it to sell more machines"... but what do I know, I'm just a Microsoft fanboy, right?

Mary Jo Foley also has some thoughts on this issue.

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  • JoeM said:

    Remember when Apple blamed their Virues on Windows.  This is apple for you, the reason why I will never buy nor recommend ANY products made by apple.

    March 23, 2007 1:16 PM
  • David said:

    Apple take responsibility for some bad press.  Shutter the thought.  

    Exactly like blaming Windows for the virus.

    March 23, 2007 1:36 PM
  • Rosyna said:

    Uhm, you linked to a site known for notoriously unreliable rumors.

    "But personally, I find it rather fishy that Apple has the cahones to fight potentially bad press by blaming it's own development issues on Microsoft."

    No where did Apple say anything about any kind of delay. It's just digitimes quoting some random source. Just like they did for their 20inch PowerBook stories.

    Secondly, Boot Camp isn't an OS X application. It's 1. A downgrade to the computer's firmware (installs a BIOS). 2. A set of Windows drivers you install on Vista. It has absolutely nothing to do with OS X or leopard and you can easily install Vista right now on any Mac without OS X even being installed (well, after you downgrade your firmware since Windows doesn't support EFI).

    March 23, 2007 5:06 PM
  • daggy said:

    Where has 'Apple' actually placed the blame on Vista?  'Insiders' are not 'Apple'.  These are the same people who start the rampart flame wars before anything Apple is released (both from the Apple camp and other O/S camps). 'If the rumours are true' is SUCH a flimsy argument to base an argument around.

    I note also that you've changed 'industry sources' from the original article to 'insiders' -- a completely different meaning.  Industry sources does not necessarily mean 'apple insiders'.

    'Well, if this report is true, then it is quite possible' -- what a ridiculous thing to say.

    'Remember when Apple blamed their Virues on Windows.  This is apple for you, the reason why I will never buy nor recommend ANY products made by apple.' -- The only viruses around for the Mac currently are Microsoft Word macro viruses.  Funnily enough, it was a Windows machine in the plant used to manufacture iPods that infected them as it copied the iPod software onto them.

    I would much prefer for Apple to delay releasing Leopard if it truely needs to, rather than release a buggy OS.  These rumours that Apple is blaming Vista issues are just that -- rumours.  Rumours perpetuated by people such as yourself.

    March 23, 2007 9:50 PM
  • Ian Eisenberg said:

    If you are talking about the Windows virus that was found on Windows formatted iPods, then yes... it was the fault of WIndows. To be perfectly fair it was the fault of the IT staff at the Chinese fab who did not adequately protect their systems from malicious code. But Windows was indeed the gateway.

    Otherwise, what OSX virus?

    March 23, 2007 11:57 PM
  • MysterMask said:

    A release date in "spring 07" means somewhere inbetween March 21st and June 22nd. Talking about a delay on March 23rd is somewhat idiotic, isn't it?

    "Now, I'm not doubting that Vista support in BootCamp would be a huge draw"

    BootCamp already supports Vista more or less. What's your point?

    "I'm just a Microsoft fanboy, right?"

    You said it. And obviously not a very clever one ..

    March 24, 2007 12:03 AM
  • March 24, 2007 1:28 AM
  • ra1n said:

    Maybe Apple just don't want to launch beta-quality products like windows :-)

    March 24, 2007 7:19 AM
  • JorgeNeto said:

    As far as I remember Windows Vista took a long time - was it two years - to be released from a company with 4 times the amount of human resources.

    In the end, they (Microsoft) released nothing but a new theme for Windows XP with some new applications bundled and some graphics effects.

    March 24, 2007 8:32 AM
  • cymro said:

    "I'm just a Microsoft fanboy, right?"

    Right.

    March 24, 2007 8:34 AM
  • Anonymoose said:

    That icon next to your article's title looks like an icon for

    Open Office documents in the file manager.

    March 24, 2007 9:29 AM
  • Ron said:
    March 24, 2007 12:49 PM
  • Spring said:

    Its supposed to come out in spring, seeing as spring just started a couple days ago, I'd say they have about 3 months to go... stop getting your panties in a bunch.  

    March 24, 2007 3:42 PM
  • Neil said:

    You had better not say any of this to "Microsoft Watch" otherwise they will call you all sorts of names under the sun. Anything AGAINST microsoft they are interested in, but NOT anything that remotely looks like "PRO" microsoft.

    I have tried ..... and been shot down in a hail of bullets for doing so, when all the "PRO" Apple don't like what they read (even if it is true).

    For example it was reported on Neowin that the Mac OS 10.4.9 update had caused a lot of problems for Mac users, when I dared say it on "Microsoft Watch" well.... and this was when they were busy "bad mouthing" Vista.

    They are no longer Microsoft Watch but "Microsoft Bash" !!!!

    So I must be a "fan boy" as well I suppose ..... well I suppose am too, mind you I still reserve my right to complain.

    March 25, 2007 12:33 AM
  • glennyboiwpg said:

    Wow... yeah I should have known that you would find this story.  But as people said, this RUMOR was created by a RUMOR site, NOT APPLE.  Macrumors has received info from an actual apple source regarding the RUMOR.

    http://www.macrumors.com/2007/03/24/leopard-still-on-schedule/

    The reason why this irritates me so much is that if/when the tables were reversed and someone said something not favorable/true about your precious microsoft, you would write a huge article bashing them, their story, and their creditably as a whole.  You would go on and on about how unprofessional they were and how they don't deserve to be in the industry.

    But then as you said... you are a microsoft fanboy hosting a microsoft fan site...

    March 26, 2007 8:13 AM
  • GlennyBoi: I don't think that's true, I don't do that. There is enough Microsoft stuff out there that I don't feel it necessary to constantly trash people who write about Apple. I occasionally trash Apple about the BS they pull at WWDC and what-not, but there's enough Microsoft stuff to focus on that I don't need to worry about what 4% of the market is doing.

    March 26, 2007 1:20 PM
  • MayoStudenT said:

    Is Apple still a company? I don't know one person where I am from that runs Apple. Oh wait they make Walkmans and sell other peoples music in crappy compression. Great company!

    March 26, 2007 3:13 PM
  • Rosyna said:

    Apple has confirmed they are delaying Leopard to add vista support to Boot Camp. http://www.apple.com/macosx/bootcamp/

    March 29, 2007 12:36 AM
  • glennyboiwpg said:

    Rosyna, you aren't serious right?  I mean the link you have actually lets you download a new version of bootcamp that supports vista today.

    I don't think that leopard will be delayed by supporting vista.

    March 30, 2007 9:32 AM
  • FibberMcGee said:

    Interesting bit of news to come out today from Apple. They say they're delaying Leopard until October.

    http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=104&STORY=/www/story/04-12-2007/0004564657&EDATE=

    I wonder how many apologies will be coming to everybody who was slamming McLaws.

    April 12, 2007 4:53 PM
  • Dude... said:

    Dude, no one is going to apologize because McLaws was slammed for reporting that the reason for the delay was Vista...

    Apple said it was its own fault that Leopard was delayed.

    April 12, 2007 9:00 PM
  • Thanks Fibber, but I don't need any apologies. Sometimes rumors have an element of truth to them. And the Mac fanboys misread the article anyways. I said "if the report is true", meaning it wasn't clear if it was or not. I never "reported" that it was attributed to Vista. I just linked to someone that did, and called bullsh!t if it was true. They took my post out of context, which was their perrogative.

    April 28, 2007 7:56 PM
  • Milos said:

    interesting

    June 14, 2007 3:59 PM
  • Laurentios said:

    Interesting...

    June 15, 2007 4:27 PM
  • Kyriakos said:

    Interesting...

    June 16, 2007 10:30 PM