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Engadget Needs To Fact Check Regarding (Dell XPS One) RED

Man, you know, I'm sick and tired of Engadget getting all the Bill Gates interviews and crap, when they are constantly bashing Microsoft, and can't even get their facts straight. Take today for example. They took a screenshot of the landing page for the Dell XPS One, and used it to launch this huge diatribe about how the PRODUCT RED version is a ripoff to the consumer.

Had Engadget taken about 5  minutes to go through and try to configure the baseline XPS One in a similar configuration as the PRODUCT RED version, they would have discovered several things:

  1. The baseline comes with Home Premium, which cannot be upgraded to Ultimate (at least, not through Dell).
  2. The baseline version comes with Works and not Office.
  3. If you click through on the baseline model, you'd see a page asking for your service plan. Note the fine print, which puts the product well on par with the PRODUCT RED version:


With the difference in price between Office and Works, plus the difference between Vista Home Premium and Vista Ultimate, plus the $200 off, it's actually a BETTER value than the base model.

So next time, Engadget, before you go shooting your mouths off about something, why don't you take a page from the people you guys try so hard not to emulate, and check your facts before you hit the "Publish" button. it might go a long way to building your credibility.



  • bigred said:

    I find engadget pretty entertaining most the time, but I do notice they like to stir up trouble every now and then and it feels like they bend their stories to get more reactions.  

    I agree, they should have read the facts and explained better.  Before you even mentioned the differences, I saw the vista version being different.

    Just shows you can't believe everything you read.

    January 25, 2008 1:54 PM
  • Reread what I wrote. There's no justifying the inclusion of Vista Ultimate as the *only* option on a consumer-class, home-use machine, RED or not. The point is, the RED XPS One *starts* at $1,599. There is no option to downgrade the RED XPS One to Vista Home Premium and Works and save yourself the pointless $300 premium. That's uncool.


    January 25, 2008 2:21 PM
  • Dan said:

    Engadget really pissed me off after this story:

    The overall tone and wording was just awful. Apparently they think the (supposed) beta needs to already be drastically different than what Vista was. The line "We know we can't wait to pay another few hundred dollars for a barely noticeable upgrade to Vista that will re-break all driver support, how about you?" just is complete garbage. Espically because they overlook all Leopard issues......

    January 25, 2008 2:29 PM
  • thatguy said:

    Yea, that's absolutely ridiculous, and I'm actually quite disappointed that engadget would have something so un-researched like  Thanks for fillin' me in...

    January 25, 2008 2:50 PM
  • Thomas, maybe you should re-read what I wrote. It's not a pointless $300 of the other model is having a $200 sale. If you want to help some people, but a RED with Ultimate. If you don't, then don't... but there is no need to sensationalize something with false statements. Microsoft didn't make a RED SKU for Home Premium. Sorry... get over it.

    January 25, 2008 3:04 PM
  • January 25, 2008 3:24 PM
  • Robert,

    Calling it a "sale" doesn't change the fact that the base config is still $300 less. It's not like Dell is going to raise the price to $1,499 again. Explain why not a single XPS One configuration allows the user to upgrade to Vista Ultimate. I'll tell you why, the margin is far greater for MS and Dell on Ultimate and Office so that they can recoup their costs on the $80 donation. A cost passed along to the consumers who I write for (and defend) at Engadget. MS says themselves that "Vista Home Premium is the preferred edition for home desktops."

    I personally love the XPS One and I've been a fan of RED. However, this is dubious. If Dell and MS offer the XPS One for $1,299 with Ultimate and Works then my beef will be done.


    January 25, 2008 5:59 PM
  • Thomas Ricker said:


    Meant to say, If Dell and MS offer the XPS One for $1,299 with **Home Premium** and Works then my beef will be done.

    January 25, 2008 6:04 PM
  • James said:

    May want to check your comments on Page 3, Thomas. A Dell representative responded. ;)

    January 25, 2008 6:36 PM
  • Thomas, So why did your personal beef have to become an Engadget post? Isn't that what your personal blog is for?

    January 25, 2008 7:03 PM
  • Thomas Ricker said:

    It's not only personal, it was discussed internally before publication. It's Engadget's position: you're better off purchasing a base XPS and giving your savings directly to charity. It's a better deal for you and for those in need.

    January 26, 2008 3:30 AM
  • MarvinK said:

    Well, their article is obviously just a rant about the price of Vista Ultimate and Office 2007 (and I don't think they will find many who disagree with that).  The problem is, they spend most of the article using fuzzy math to make it sound like more than just whining about Ultimate/Office.  I think most readers can see right through it--and it's the type of thing that loses Engadget respect.

    January 26, 2008 10:13 AM
  • MarvinK said:

    Really, what I think Microsoft should do is offer the (RED) theme to all Vista users for a small fee ($5?).  They'd definitely sell more $5 themes than Dell (RED) systems... and nearly all of the fee should be able to go to the cause.  I bet they'd raise more money....    and add very minimal amount of work.

    January 26, 2008 10:25 AM
  • Polar Bear said:

    "Windows Vista PRODUCT (RED)". Another SKU of a horrid Microsoft product. Not surprised.

    January 26, 2008 10:51 PM
  • Aly said:

    Polar Bear the folks at engadget are waiting for you. with their pants down. the bottom line is, if you are not doing anything good then dont stand in the way of someone who is.

    January 27, 2008 2:47 AM